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Post by CEO Harvey McCutchins on Jan 16, 2011 19:10:57 GMT -5
Feedback for Michaels' RPs here.
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Post by "The Cult Classic" Rachel Cole on Jan 20, 2011 6:18:29 GMT -5
Okay, I addressed in my RPs for this week but I feel it should be done in a more professional manner.
It is very obvious that this is just Matt Ward handling a female character. Basically, she doesn't talk like a human woman but more or less a love slave robot. Maybe that was what Jack Johnson was refering to in his RP... I don't know. If you are going to handle a female WRESTLER, she needs to be more than just an accessory. If you are going to do that, then she should just be a manger. But even then she needs to be fleshed out from "As you wish master" to something a little more human. Right now, she is what a child would consider an ideal girlfriend and that is good... for children. But you are writing an adult female with feelings and emotions and estrogen. Some things that might help:
-Have her disagree with Matt on some issues. Having her agree with everything he says and even repeating what he says is not very entertaining. But having her try to bring him down to earth just might be. -Give her a background... something other than being JUST Matt Ward's GF. Who was she before she met him? Why is she involved in wrestling? Why is she with Matt Ward? Taking these questions and answering them gradually will help other people understand the character. -Give her flaws. And I'm not talking about the accidental flaws you gave her by making her an "I Dream of Genie" wet dream. Maybe she is a perfectionist. Maybe she is too opinionated. Maybe she is passive. Maybe she pops pills. Maybe she was fat as a child and really has to work to keep the weight off. Giving a character a flaw gives them strength. Hell, maybe you can take what you started with her absolute dependance on Ward and give abandonement and daddy issues. -She is hispanic (or at least her pic base is)... you can use that as well. Maybe she can bust out some very basic spanish in her RPs. Heck, maybe she is adopted. Basically, I hear the last name and the pic base and they don't match up.
You have several options on what you can do with this character to make her not just an accessory to Matt Ward. There is nothing wrong with sexualizing a woman, but sexuality shouldn't be all a woman is to herself. I bet if you looked at the character through the character's eyes, she wouldn't see herself as JUST Matt Ward's plaything.
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Matt Ward
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The Darkest Side
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Post by Matt Ward on Jan 25, 2011 17:28:37 GMT -5
Okay, I addressed in my RPs for this week but I feel it should be done in a more professional manner. It is very obvious that this is just Matt Ward handling a female character. Basically, she doesn't talk like a human woman but more or less a love slave robot. Maybe that was what Jack Johnson was refering to in his RP... I don't know. If you are going to handle a female WRESTLER, she needs to be more than just an accessory. If you are going to do that, then she should just be a manger. But even then she needs to be fleshed out from "As you wish master" to something a little more human. Right now, she is what a child would consider an ideal girlfriend and that is good... for children. But you are writing an adult female with feelings and emotions and estrogen. Some things that might help: -Have her disagree with Matt on some issues. Having her agree with everything he says and even repeating what he says is not very entertaining. But having her try to bring him down to earth just might be. -Give her a background... something other than being JUST Matt Ward's GF. Who was she before she met him? Why is she involved in wrestling? Why is she with Matt Ward? Taking these questions and answering them gradually will help other people understand the character. -Give her flaws. And I'm not talking about the accidental flaws you gave her by making her an "I Dream of Genie" wet dream. Maybe she is a perfectionist. Maybe she is too opinionated. Maybe she is passive. Maybe she pops pills. Maybe she was fat as a child and really has to work to keep the weight off. Giving a character a flaw gives them strength. Hell, maybe you can take what you started with her absolute dependance on Ward and give abandonement and daddy issues. -She is hispanic (or at least her pic base is)... you can use that as well. Maybe she can bust out some very basic spanish in her RPs. Heck, maybe she is adopted. Basically, I hear the last name and the pic base and they don't match up. You have several options on what you can do with this character to make her not just an accessory to Matt Ward. There is nothing wrong with sexualizing a woman, but sexuality shouldn't be all a woman is to herself. I bet if you looked at the character through the character's eyes, she wouldn't see herself as JUST Matt Ward's plaything. hey that is where you are wrong i do not play miley micheals, my friend Tanya does. so that how she has her character. I am not the one playing MILEY SO YOU ALL can GET THAT SHIT out of your HEADS NOW KTHXBAI
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Post by "The Cult Classic" Rachel Cole on Jan 25, 2011 17:43:05 GMT -5
A) I still don't believe it.
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B) My feedback still stands. She is very one dimensional and needs some good character development away from being "I do whatever my man says." or at least make it interesting.
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Post by "The Divine Chaos" Galen Ronan on Jan 25, 2011 18:27:20 GMT -5
Okay, I addressed in my RPs for this week but I feel it should be done in a more professional manner. It is very obvious that this is just Matt Ward handling a female character. Basically, she doesn't talk like a human woman but more or less a love slave robot. Maybe that was what Jack Johnson was refering to in his RP... I don't know. If you are going to handle a female WRESTLER, she needs to be more than just an accessory. If you are going to do that, then she should just be a manger. But even then she needs to be fleshed out from "As you wish master" to something a little more human. Right now, she is what a child would consider an ideal girlfriend and that is good... for children. But you are writing an adult female with feelings and emotions and estrogen. Some things that might help: -Have her disagree with Matt on some issues. Having her agree with everything he says and even repeating what he says is not very entertaining. But having her try to bring him down to earth just might be. -Give her a background... something other than being JUST Matt Ward's GF. Who was she before she met him? Why is she involved in wrestling? Why is she with Matt Ward? Taking these questions and answering them gradually will help other people understand the character. -Give her flaws. And I'm not talking about the accidental flaws you gave her by making her an "I Dream of Genie" wet dream. Maybe she is a perfectionist. Maybe she is too opinionated. Maybe she is passive. Maybe she pops pills. Maybe she was fat as a child and really has to work to keep the weight off. Giving a character a flaw gives them strength. Hell, maybe you can take what you started with her absolute dependance on Ward and give abandonement and daddy issues. -She is hispanic (or at least her pic base is)... you can use that as well. Maybe she can bust out some very basic spanish in her RPs. Heck, maybe she is adopted. Basically, I hear the last name and the pic base and they don't match up. You have several options on what you can do with this character to make her not just an accessory to Matt Ward. There is nothing wrong with sexualizing a woman, but sexuality shouldn't be all a woman is to herself. I bet if you looked at the character through the character's eyes, she wouldn't see herself as JUST Matt Ward's plaything. hey that is where you are wrong i do not play miley micheals, my friend Tanya does. so that how she has her character. I am not the one playing MILEY SO YOU ALL can GET THAT SHIT out of your HEADS NOW KTHXBAI ... Then why didn't she respond to the thread? (And no need to take such offense to it, dude... overreaction much?)
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Post by CEO Harvey McCutchins on Jan 25, 2011 18:44:23 GMT -5
Ok...the bickering stops now. Period!
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Post by Not Super Pollo on Jan 25, 2011 18:45:57 GMT -5
This = Gold
From the looks of it your friend Tanya wants to bang ya. Or rape you. I can't tell by the rp she posted.
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maximilion
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Post by maximilion on Jan 25, 2011 18:52:41 GMT -5
haha what did I miss?
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Post by CEO Harvey McCutchins on Jan 25, 2011 18:53:11 GMT -5
^^^^^
Noooooooooooot helping LOL
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Post by CEO Harvey McCutchins on Jan 25, 2011 20:23:34 GMT -5
Ok, below are the IP addresses from both accounts in question. Different IP addresses=different people. Case closed. Miley-24.167.247.92 Ward-184.78.81.133
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Post by "The Divine Chaos" Galen Ronan on Jan 25, 2011 21:00:03 GMT -5
Ok, below are the IP addresses from both accounts in question. Different IP addresses=different people. Case closed. Miley-24.167.247.92 Ward-184.78.81.133 Or proxies, or non-static IP address. Or multiple computers. Not saying you're wrong, just sayin' that it's a possibility.
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Post by "The Cult Classic" Rachel Cole on Jan 25, 2011 21:02:49 GMT -5
That is good enough for me though... so I apologize to Matt Ward and ... I guess... Tanya.
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Post by CEO Harvey McCutchins on Jan 25, 2011 21:03:03 GMT -5
Benefit of the doubt, and that is the end of this discussion. For here on out ANY posts for either Miley or Ward about their characters should be feedback and treated as if they are handled by two separate people, which I believe they are.
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Post by "The Cult Classic" Rachel Cole on Jan 26, 2011 14:58:45 GMT -5
And there is going to be nothing in character that explains any of that as it pertains to Matt Ward is there? No one can see how any of this is VERY confusing with character revamp in the middle of an RP cycle with no explanation and then someone who has been built up as a key figure just gets dropped along with the revamp?
And no one called Matt Ward a girl. There was suspicion that he was handling Matt Ward AND Miley, but I don't think anyone accussed him of being a girl. Or does he not like people think he is handling a woman in the first place. Let me tell you, there is nothing wrong with that. Wouldn't it just be easier for you guys to write an RP where they split and Miley becomes her own person? That seems a lot more interesting than dropping the character. In fact, it is great character development for the character.
All in all, both of you are making it VERY difficult for your characters to grow on anyone by changing them like this without any explanation. Why should we invest in reading characters that just change or get dropped overnight whenever the handlers feel like it. Again, instead of letting you characters develop into something new you are just chaning or dropping them in favor of something similiar. It is hard to understand or take seriously.
And why do you guys always speak for the other person but never yourself? You have to understand how that seems very suspicious.
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Post by mileymichaels on Jan 26, 2011 15:46:57 GMT -5
Of all the times my PC glitched that one had to post lol.
Thing is with Miley, use to have had a door open for her that I could of played her actually and work on the tweaks. Today, I just found the card he played out which left me stunned and bewildered because that door slammed without warning. And he gave me 3 reasons for it. Even though I am not keen to starting drama at all with in fed's I left it open on my message in case people wanted to know why he left her sit and moved on like he is...but I can tell you that one of these reasons he gave me got around this thread on how he got put on that he played both Ward and Miley and how he felt his guy was getting joked on outside of that. But yea
Tan-
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